#1: Property Market Crash or Shift Prediction in 2023 ? (Part 1)

Podcast

We’re back with a new season of Nuggets on the Go. In this season’s first episode, Melvin Lim from PropertyLimBrothers talks about the current and future outlook of Singapore’s real estate market, and what we can forecast for the next 12 months. With Fed pivots, that would potentially cause further interest rate hikes, will the US be facing recession? What will happen to the real estate market in Singapore? Will our real estate price index start to drop? Tune in for the first part of our rundown and ready yourself for what’s to come.

You can also see our video on this topic!

Our Author/Guests

Melvin Lim

Melvin Lim is the co-founder and CEO of PropertyLimBrothers (PLB Realty). In Melvin’s eyes, every home has its own character and is unique. As a realtor, he enjoys telling stories about homes, highlighting what makes them special to potential buyers.

Transcript

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– Happy new year to everybody

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and we are in the first week of 2023.

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By the time you’re watching this

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perhaps it’s towards the end of January,

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but I want to just wish everybody a very warm welcome to 2023

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because this year is going to be pretty interesting as well

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and that’s what we’re going to talk about

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on Singapore’s real estate market

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and some predictions and forecast that we have

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on the real estate market for the next 12 months.

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So let’s go.

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Alright, so we’re doing

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Nuggets On The Go Episode 1 for 2023,

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and let’s have a look at this recap.

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This was the news that came out about last month.

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Of course if you have seen the latest interest rate,

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if you have been hunting for a home,

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you’ll realise that the rates have shot up the roof,

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and in fact any fixed rates nowadays is like 4.25%, 4.5%.

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In fact, if you can get 4.25% it’s considered very low already.

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Floating rates already inching towards 4%,

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there’s still one more rate hike to go.

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So 2022, we had seven rounds of rate hike.

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These seven rounds were one of the fastest increments

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in the history of Federal rate hikes.

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So 2022 is really an incredible year

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because not only was it a year of the black swan

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where we had the cryptocurrency crash,

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we had the stock market crash,

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we had tech firm stocks all also called dipping

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from all time highs,

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and of course we also have the Ukraine War

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that started towards the tail end of 2021.

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2022 was considered the black swan year

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that everything just happened one shot together.

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So what’s going to happen in 2023?

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Of course there’s a lot of different kind of

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schools of thoughts and different analysts

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are giving different kinds of forecasts and predictions.

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Some analysts are saying that the stock market will rebound

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after the Fed pivot,

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some predict a recession in the US.

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A lot of analysts and banks are very certain

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that recession will happen in the US,

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and of course that is one of the coinciding factor

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of why Fed will pivot as well

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because inflation has peaked according to analysts

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and when inflation peaks,

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Fed also don’t want the inflation so-call to go to a level

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whereby it’s unsustainable

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that is why they also cannot maintain high rates

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for a very long time,

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they will need to bring down the rates

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to a more palatable kind of level

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in case the rate hikes will cause the US

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to slip into a very deep recession for a very long time,

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and that’s the reason why Fed will pivot.

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There might be still one more round to go,

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probably in March or April,

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and then the forecast is that once that round hits the roof

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Fed will then monitor the inflation figures.

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If it’s brought down to a very nice level,

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then they might monitor how the economy goes,

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but of course the next round of things

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that might happen is this,

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so this was the news that came out just about

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on the 2nd of Jan.

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So when we look at this, Michael Burry,

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a very famous investor

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that was made famous by the show “The Big Short”.

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So if you were to look at this,

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he made this statement on his Twitter account.

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So basically he says that

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Fed will cut and government will stimulate

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because he says that while inflation has peaked,

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it’s likely to pick up again

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in response to government stimulus.

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So he’s forecasting another round of government stimulus

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and what is government stimulus?

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Government stimulus means QE (Quantitative Easing).

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So what’s happening right now

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is that we are experiencing QT (Quantitative Tightening) for the entire 2022 and 2023,

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but he’s forecasting that QE might happen again

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because the government will then need

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to stimulate the economy to save the economy from recession.

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So we might go through this entire cycle of QE again

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and when that happens,

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what does all this mean

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for the Singapore real estate market?

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Because we recognise that most of the time

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there’s this kind of like behaviour

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when it comes to property purchase, property investing,

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vis-à-vis the stock market performance.

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Because I don’t know whether is it just Singapore

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or whether is it like a global kind of thing,

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but a lot of people coincides the stock market performance

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as well as rest estate performance,

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and that is of course true in some countries

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because if they look at certain countries,

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for example in certain states in America

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when interest rates rise

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and of course usually when interest rates rise, like last year,

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stock market will correct itself.

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When interest rates rise, naturally purchasing power drops

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and people will forecast that the real estate market

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will start to dip,

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and that’s exactly what happened

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in certain states in America,

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but not every state experienced a dip in pricing,

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only in certain states.

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When it comes to Singapore,

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that mentality also transpose itself right into Singapore

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because people love to time the stock market.

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We need to ask ourselves,

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should we follow this method?

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Should timing the stock market

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be similar to using this exact method

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to time the Singapore market?

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Because a lot of people in Singapore,

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a lot of Singaporeans in Singapore

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they have portfolio diversification in equity stocks

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as well as in real estate properties

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and they like to link them both together.

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And we need to understand this key concept,

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and what is this key concept is that

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we need to understand that there’s always a laggard effect

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when it comes to rest estate

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because real estate is largely illiquid in nature.

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We might not even feel the effect

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if the recession in the US is short-lived

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and sometimes whatever policy that happens in the US,

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it takes a longer duration

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to kick into effect into Singapore.

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And Singapore, we have to understand

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that we are living on a very different landscape,

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we’re so small with so many cooling measures.

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This time around, even though when we look at this,

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we had a close to like a 18.75% dip since the start of 2022

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all the way towards the end of 2022

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this is like -18.75% in the S&P 500 price index.

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We came up with this chart as well

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to look at S&P 500 with Singapore real estate price index.

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So these three lines right here,

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you got to see the landed property price index,

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you got to see the condo apartment price index,

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you got to see the HDB price index

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and this has a dip of -18%.

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This line here is the start of 2022

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and of course for the entire 2022

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these three lines here,

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if we talk about the private residential market,

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they increase by 8.4%,

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it’s the latest news that came out.

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So why is it that the S&P 500 dip -18%

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real estate pricing locally still increased by 8.4%?

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Can we correlate them?

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Is timing the market effective for the real estate market?

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What if we are wrong

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and what if we’re hoping that the rest estate market

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will dip but it didn’t dip?

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When we look at this,

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then let me just come out of these three.

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Similarly, this is 2022,

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this is of course 2022 as well,

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there’s a line here.

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So here an increment of 8.4%,

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here, a dip of -18%.

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So everybody’s trying to forecast for 2023,

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will the Singapore real estate price index start to drop

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in reaction to this dip last year?

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We need to understand that this is

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if we were to use this same methodology

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into the real estate asset investment kind of mindset,

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this is essentially called timing the market

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and we’re going to talk about timing the market.

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We’ve talked about a lot in our NOTG episodes before

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and is timing the market effective

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in Singapore’s real estate market?

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So we need to understand that there are different strategies

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when it comes to different types of asset investing.

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Investing in the stock market

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is very different from real estate market,

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they are very different in pricing behaviours

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and stock market is essentially very volatile,

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which presents opportunity for timing the market.

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Of course there’s like the dollar-cost averaging,

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DCA approach, like you know different technical analysis,

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different value investing

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so-called investors they talk about,

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you know, you should always stay in the market

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if you love that stock,

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if you love the fundamentals of the company,

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you think that there’s growth,

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you think that the fundamentals are good,

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you should always stay in the stock,

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you don’t have to worry about recession

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that usually last about one or maybe one and a half years.

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You should stay in the market,

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you should buy the dip.

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So usually people like to talk about all this kind of stuff

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and the rationale is that stock market

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being more liquid in fashion,

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liquid means that you can enter and exit very easily.

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And because our Fed is volatile,

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there’s more room to time the market for exit and re-entry.

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If you want to dollar-cost average,

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of course you will re-enter at the dips.

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You are proposing that this company will do very well

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in the mid to long term,

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you want to stay in the market,

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that is good of course.

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So it depends on your own strategy

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of investing in stock market.

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But when it comes to real estate,

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we have to understand that it is very illiquid

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and to enter and exit a real estate asset it takes time.

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When you put it in the market,

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sometimes you don’t get to sell the property

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for 3 to 6 months.

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Some people even take up to 9 to 12 months to sell a home

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depending on the difficulty level

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and of course depending on the economy as well,

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sometimes buying the property,

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of course buying a real estate is extremely easy.

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You can just walk into the showroom,

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you can buy immediately,

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but it takes three months to complete a transaction.

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But when you want to exit,

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it is much more difficult because you need to prep the home.

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The home has so-called deteriorated

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in terms of renovation through time,

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you need to refresh, repaint,

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you need to strategise your marketing,

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you need to find the right buyer.

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Of course some homes are very easy to exit

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because they’re very rare or the quantum is very palatable.

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You know, it can be sold in one week, one month

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and one day we’ve done all sorts of home selling before.

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Of course you can check out our YouTube channel,

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we’ve done over 1,600+ Home Tours.

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And it is unwise to time the real estate market

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because this is essentially a very stable asset,

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people use it as a store of wealth

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and if you were to use the same methodology approach

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of the stock market to pump it into the real estate market

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and you are waiting at the side lines,

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you might be renting,

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you might be paying rental for 12, 24, 36 months already.

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And of course it’s a side topic,

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but I’m going to do an episode on

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what is the sweet spot of weighing rental

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versus biting the bullet to go into the market.

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Let’s say for example, if you need to pay ABSD,

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or you’re a PR, you’re a foreigner,

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you’re really thinking about this

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and you know you’ve been paying rental

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for maybe three years already,

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it’s really painful

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and now rental rates has surged so much,

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it’s getting very ridiculous

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instead from the tenants’ point of view,

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but for the landlords, all the landlords are really enjoying

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the high rental rates right now.

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I’m going to do a separate episode to talk about

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what is the sweet spot

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in terms of the number of years and months

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that you will need to do that flip to buy.

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Because if you were to prolong beyond that sweet spot,

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then essentially it’s not worth it to continue renting anymore

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because by renting you are just servicing the mortgage

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and you’re servicing the mortgage interest

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for your landlord.

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You’re technically like the customer.

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Of course you get to use the space,

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but by not owning real estate in Singapore,

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and real estate Singapore is a very different ballgame

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because we have very high ownership rate,

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90% of people own homes right here,

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it’s a very different landscape and prices, rental,

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they behave very differently.

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Now I want to talk about this fact here that is

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real estate has a very different thing,

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it eats inflation for breakfast.

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What do I mean by eating inflation for breakfast is that

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real estate rides on this thing called inflation

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and inflation we bring out the two kinds of inflations.

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One is CPI inflation,

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one is called asset inflation.

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Asset inflation is being pushed by QE (Quantitative Easing)

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and the amount of money that’s flooded into the market.

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So when there’s no more money,

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we call it M2 supply that is being created,

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asset prices will bump up

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and usually this bump up is extremely fast.

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It can just bump up in one to two years

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just like what we experienced in the last two years

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for the landed property market.

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And real estate being a very tangible asset,

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it eats inflation for breakfast.

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Now the key rationale is because,

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firstly this is a safe haven.

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People like to pump money into real estate

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to store their wealth.

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And if you notice, millionaires, billionaires,

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they get very wealthy over the years

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because they own a lot of real estate

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and the real estate just increase in pricing

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while they sleep,

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while they carry on their business,

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while they carry on their professional life.

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And asset prices actually eats inflation for breakfast.

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There’s one more thing that’s happening below the scene,

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behind the scene is that your mortgage, your debt,

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and in real estate your debt is considered a good debt

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because this is considered a leverage point.

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Banks love to loan people when it comes to buying a property

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and they love to give out mortgages because why?

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Because if you cannot pay your mortgage for three months,

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they take your property.

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There’s also a nice leveraging point in the sense that

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you pump in 25% down payment,

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you have skin in the game,

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the bank will loan you 75% as long as you have proof of income,

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you have a stable salary,

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you have a stable business,

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you have a stable kind of inflow of income every month,

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the bank find that you’re suitable to loan you the mortgage,

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they will loan to you because there is a collateral

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on the mortgage itself which is the physical property.

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They can always take the property,

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they can auction it off.

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Mortgage being a good debt has one more effect

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is that it’s eroded by inflation as well.

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So take note that the money that you’re holding,

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the currency that you’re holding on hand

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is eroding in its value through time because of inflation.

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The $100 that you have,

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or the $1,000 that you have in the bank,

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in two years time it’s going to be worth less.

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You’re going to only be able to buy lesser things

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in two years time.

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The $1,000 you have will get weaker

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over the next 5 to 10 years.

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So that also means that this 75% loan

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that you’re loaning from the bank,

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is going to get lower in value in terms of the absolute value

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that you’re going to have in the next 5 to 10 years.

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So that is the reason why mortgage rate

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is also eroded by inflation

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and that is forming this V curve right here.

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So your asset pricing is going up

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but your mortgage is going down

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in terms of its value itself.

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So technically speaking,

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when you look at this component,

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this is a fantastic thing

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of why people love to own real estate in the world.

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2023, what is going to be the forecast

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before we end this episode.

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Now 2023, a lot of people are waiting at the side lines

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because they are hoping to see the impact

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of the high interest rates that we have right now

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and everybody’s waiting at the sidelines,

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and 2023 is going to be the year

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with at least close to about 40 new launches coming up

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because there’s been so much en bloc

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and government land sales in the past years.

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But if you were to look at some of the latest news,

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our government is monitoring the market very closely

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and just by looking at this news,

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you know that our government knows

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that amount of land is not enough

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because the unsold housing stock has hit a 15 year low

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and just last month

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our government is pumping up the amount of GLS

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because they know that developers’ appetites are so strong

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through the strong bidding last year,

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developers are hungry for land

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because they’ve already cleared a lot of their launches

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in the past few years.

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A lot of properties are also going to TOP,

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this few years, this shows a sign that the market

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is hitting a signal that the developers want more land

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and there’s a lot of underlying demand in the market.

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Of course if you look

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at the latest launch right here as well,

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you also notice that, you also ask yourself this question,

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like where are all these buyers coming from?

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You know, I thought that 2022 wasn’t a good year,

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but where are all these buyers coming from?

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So I want to end this episode with this key thing

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and then we’ll move into the second episode

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talking about part two of our forecast for 2023.

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Now we want to dive into the mindset

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of the existing owners and investors

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because this will give us a very nice sort of thinking

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on the behaviours of existing property owners

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as well as people that are waiting on the side lines

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hoping to buy a property.

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Perhaps you have been waiting for the past 24 months

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because you have exited maybe in 2020 or 2021

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and you are hoping that the market will crash

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so they you can come in and buy cheap.

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Now everybody hopes for that to happen,

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but just have a look at our pricing for the past 10 years

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had the market really crashed?

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And watch our previous episode

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on why we think that the Singapore market is different

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because we have 13 round of cooling measures

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pumped into the price.

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We are very sticky right now

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in terms of the stickiness of our pricing.

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Nobody’s selling their property cheap.

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Has high interest rate last year in 2022 changed behaviours?

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Will people start to fire sale their property in 2023?

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Will developers start to drop prices in 2023?

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And that will help us to end our episode today.

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Now let’s have a look, quick recap.

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Last seven rounds, only one round 97,

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but these rounds that I’ve been circling right here

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has no dip in pricing where interest rate rise.

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The reason is because

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there has been so many cooling measures.

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So I want to ask you this question,

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if you currently own one to two properties,

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so now we’re in January, 2023,

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let’s say you have two properties,

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one you’re staying,

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one you have been renting out.

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What will happen when you see this news article tomorrow.

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So take note, this is a fictitious news article,

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I just edited a little bit.

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So it’s just for this little mini illustration

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that we are doing together.

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So you suddenly see

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that all the banks are cutting interest rate to 1.5%.

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Now what will be your mindset if you’re a property owner

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and let’s say you are planning to exit one of your properties

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or maybe two of your properties

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because you want to upgrade to a landed home example.

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This will be what will be going through your mind.

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If you own one to two homes,

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you will definitely increase your asking price now

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because now you know that the buyer demand is much higher.

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Everybody want to come in and buy properties now

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because interest rate is so low.

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So as an existing owner of two properties,

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even if you want to sell, you will sell high.

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Second question,

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if you’re a property buyer investor waiting on the sidelines

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because you have sold your property last two years,

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00:15:51,840 –> 00:15:54,040
or maybe you have not purchased a property before

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00:15:54,040 –> 00:15:55,320
but you’re trying to time the market,

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you’re waiting for the market to dip.

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00:15:57,160 –> 00:15:58,560
What will happen tomorrow morning

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when you see this news that interest rate

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is now more than 5%,

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this is what will go through in mind.

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You’ll tell yourself that you want to quickly buy now

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because interest rate is so low

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00:16:05,720 –> 00:16:07,240
and you know that you have to buy now

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because if you don’t buy now prices are to shoot up again,

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so you want to buy now.

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But the question is,

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will you be too late by then?

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00:16:13,920 –> 00:16:15,560
Because remember the first question,

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all the existing owners

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that are holding onto properties right now,

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00:16:17,960 –> 00:16:19,520
they will not sell cheap anymore,

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00:16:19,520 –> 00:16:21,840
they will want to raise the asking price

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because the demand is back.

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Third question, if you’re a developer,

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you have a couple of launches that you want to launch in 2023,

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you wake up tomorrow as the owner of all these launches,

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00:16:29,760 –> 00:16:31,640
you’re the boss of all these launches,

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00:16:31,640 –> 00:16:32,840
you own land,

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you meet your architects,

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you have a team

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and you are maybe a small developer or a big developer.

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00:16:37,160 –> 00:16:39,560
You wake up with this news on the table,

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what will you do as a developer?

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You will definitely increase your launch price

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00:16:43,400 –> 00:16:45,840
because you know that the buyer’s demand is now back.

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00:16:45,840 –> 00:16:47,760
There’s no fear of not being able to sell,

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no fear of not being able to clear units

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00:16:49,640 –> 00:16:50,560
in the next five years.

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Fourth question,

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if you have just bought your property January, 2022

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for your own stay for your family and you wake up tomorrow

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00:16:57,600 –> 00:16:59,160
and suddenly you see that the interest rate

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now increase to 5% or even 6%,

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00:17:01,680 –> 00:17:02,480
my question is,

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will you fire sale your home

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00:17:03,760 –> 00:17:05,720
that your kids are enjoying every day?

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00:17:05,720 –> 00:17:06,960
And it’s so near to the school,

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this is really for your shelter,

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00:17:09,240 –> 00:17:10,880
it’s for you to build your family,

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00:17:10,880 –> 00:17:12,360
for you to really let your family

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00:17:12,360 –> 00:17:15,040
have a nice and safe place to to live in

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00:17:15,040 –> 00:17:16,200
and enjoy the space.

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Will you fire sale your home?

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00:17:17,320 –> 00:17:19,720
I don’t think so because you and your wife are working,

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00:17:19,720 –> 00:17:21,080
you have CPF,

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00:17:21,080 –> 00:17:21,960
you have some savings,

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00:17:21,960 –> 00:17:23,560
you know CPF is not savings in cash,

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00:17:23,560 –> 00:17:24,960
there’s no need for you to fire sale the home.

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00:17:24,960 –> 00:17:26,520
I mean worse come to worst,

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00:17:26,520 –> 00:17:28,160
even if one of you were to lose their job,

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00:17:28,160 –> 00:17:30,880
most people will be able to at least service the mortgage

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00:17:30,880 –> 00:17:33,040
for the next 6 to 12 months to find another job.

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00:17:33,040 –> 00:17:34,880
I mean, why do you need to fire sale your home?

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This is what will be going through your mind

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00:17:36,480 –> 00:17:39,240
is that you might have already lock in a fixed package

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at the start of the year at maybe 2.5%.

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00:17:41,480 –> 00:17:43,280
You’re ready to hold this property for three years

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00:17:43,280 –> 00:17:44,160
because when you buy,

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00:17:44,160 –> 00:17:46,080
you are already have the pre-knowledge

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that you have to hold it for three years.

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00:17:47,560 –> 00:17:49,560
You have paid 25% down payment

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and 4% Buyer’s Stamp Duty,

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you have skin in the game,

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00:17:51,920 –> 00:17:54,000
you have 29% down into this home.

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00:17:54,000 –> 00:17:55,080
This is for your own stay,

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00:17:55,080 –> 00:17:56,040
your kids are happy here,

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00:17:56,040 –> 00:17:57,360
there’s no need for you to fire sale your home.

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Fifth question,

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if you have just bought a second property in January, 2022,

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00:18:02,400 –> 00:18:03,560
which was 12 months back,

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00:18:03,560 –> 00:18:04,680
and you have paid ABSD

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00:18:04,680 –> 00:18:07,920
and you saw this news now in December, 2022,

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my question is, will you still fire sale your home?

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00:18:09,800 –> 00:18:10,920
And why will you do that?

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Because let’s say you are a single property investor,

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you’re not married,

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you have a property for your own stay

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00:18:15,120 –> 00:18:16,200
and you bought and you pay,

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you bite the bullet, you pay a ABSD

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00:18:17,800 –> 00:18:19,240
to own a second property to rent out.

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00:18:19,240 –> 00:18:21,200
When you see a high interest rate environment,

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00:18:21,200 –> 00:18:22,160
will you fire sale?

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00:18:22,160 –> 00:18:24,680
No you won’t because you already know

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that you have to hold for three years.

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00:18:25,880 –> 00:18:28,120
The worst thing is that because you bite the bullet,

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00:18:28,120 –> 00:18:29,640
you have so much skin in the game,

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00:18:29,640 –> 00:18:30,960
you paid 17% ABSD,

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00:18:30,960 –> 00:18:32,160
you paid 4% Buyer’s Stamp Duty,

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00:18:32,160 –> 00:18:33,960
you paid 55% down payment

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because you can only loan 45% from the bank

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00:18:36,120 –> 00:18:37,480
and your monthly instalment is so low,

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00:18:37,480 –> 00:18:39,120
you will continue to rent out,

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00:18:39,120 –> 00:18:40,720
there’s no urgency to sell.

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00:18:40,720 –> 00:18:42,520
In fact, I think you might be enjoying

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00:18:42,520 –> 00:18:43,600
passive income right now.

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So leave a comment below if I’m right

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00:18:45,480 –> 00:18:47,160
to say that you’re actually enjoying

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00:18:47,160 –> 00:18:48,000
passive income right now,

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00:18:48,000 –> 00:18:49,440
because rental rates have shot up so high.

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00:18:49,440 –> 00:18:51,920
Your spouse and yourself you own one property each,

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one for your own stay and one for investment.

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So both of you, de-coupled,

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one is for own stay, one is for investment.

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00:18:58,080 –> 00:18:59,280
Maybe you own a 3-bedder for stay,

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you own a 2-bedder for rental.

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Will you fire sale your home today

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00:19:02,760 –> 00:19:03,960
because interest rate is so high?

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00:19:03,960 –> 00:19:05,600
Similarly, you already home for three years,

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you have paid 29% for both of properties.

Melvin Lim
00:19:07,280 –> 00:19:09,680
You are using CPF to service this property,

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00:19:09,680 –> 00:19:10,720
to service this property,

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00:19:10,720 –> 00:19:12,040
they’re collecting good rental,

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00:19:12,040 –> 00:19:12,880
there’s no need for you to sell.

Melvin Lim
00:19:12,880 –> 00:19:14,400
Even if you lose your job,

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00:19:14,400 –> 00:19:16,400
you can still use rental to pay for the mortgage.

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That’s the last thing, sorry,

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is that if you are from overseas

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00:19:20,120 –> 00:19:22,560
and you are already owning three to four properties

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00:19:22,560 –> 00:19:23,840
in Singapore, will you fire sale your home?

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00:19:23,840 –> 00:19:25,560
No, the the answer is this,

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00:19:25,560 –> 00:19:27,960
you already pay ABSD over the years,

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00:19:27,960 –> 00:19:30,120
you will never sell all the properties

Melvin Lim
00:19:30,120 –> 00:19:31,680
because if you were to sell

Melvin Lim
00:19:31,680 –> 00:19:33,000
and you buy back another property,

Melvin Lim
00:19:33,000 –> 00:19:34,280
you’ll be hit by the new ABSD.

Melvin Lim
00:19:34,280 –> 00:19:36,000
You’ll continue to collect rent,

Melvin Lim
00:19:36,000 –> 00:19:37,560
you will let your Singapore currency

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00:19:37,560 –> 00:19:39,920
appreciate against your native currency,

Melvin Lim
00:19:39,920 –> 00:19:41,440
which works well for you

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00:19:41,440 –> 00:19:43,520
and that is an added advantage for foreign property investor.

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00:19:43,520 –> 00:19:47,720
And we’ve just concluded all the six different categories

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of demographics of property owners

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as well as one of the demographics

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00:19:52,480 –> 00:19:53,920
is people waiting on side line.

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00:19:53,920 –> 00:19:55,760
So I think if you’re waiting on the side line,

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we need to look at the whole picture together

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00:19:57,800 –> 00:19:59,880
is that we need to look at the existing people

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holding onto properties

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00:20:01,000 –> 00:20:02,560
because they’re holding power

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00:20:02,560 –> 00:20:05,640
determines the price and valuation point

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00:20:05,640 –> 00:20:07,920
of the Singapore property price index.

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00:20:07,920 –> 00:20:10,080
And if you look at who is currently owning the properties,

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based on the statistic in the last few years,

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00:20:12,560 –> 00:20:14,280
we no longer need to depend on foreigners

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00:20:14,280 –> 00:20:16,200
on the property price index

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00:20:16,200 –> 00:20:18,880
because 76% plus 21% of the properties

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that are done deal in the last year,

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00:20:21,000 –> 00:20:22,080
in the last few years actually

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00:20:22,080 –> 00:20:23,800
are done by Singaporeans and PR,

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00:20:23,800 –> 00:20:25,200
and that is an extremely high percentage

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00:20:25,200 –> 00:20:26,640
because a lot of people thought that

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00:20:26,640 –> 00:20:29,280
we need to have foreigners investors coming in

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00:20:29,280 –> 00:20:30,840
to buy our property to push our pricing,

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00:20:30,840 –> 00:20:34,280
but actually this is a reverse picture already

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because of all the cooling measures.

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In fact we became sort of like a self-sustaining

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kind of country right now.

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Most of you are buying properties,

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they are people already in Singapore,

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00:20:43,000 –> 00:20:44,280
they are locals

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00:20:44,280 –> 00:20:48,040
and this is a very strong base fundamental pool

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00:20:48,040 –> 00:20:50,400
of buying power that we have in the market right now.

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Last but not least

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is that we have to understand this very important fact

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is that we churn out this chart.

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00:20:55,800 –> 00:20:57,000
The existing people,

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00:20:57,000 –> 00:20:59,120
so in Singapore there’s 340K

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00:20:59,120 –> 00:21:01,200
current stock of condos and apartments,

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00:21:01,200 –> 00:21:04,080
and we’re talking about condos and apart strata units.

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00:21:04,080 –> 00:21:05,280
260K are owned by Singaporeans,

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00:21:05,280 –> 00:21:09,480
70K of these units are owned by foreigners and PR.

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00:21:09,480 –> 00:21:11,800
What this means is that PR and foreigners

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they have more skin in the game

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00:21:12,760 –> 00:21:14,040
because PR pay 5% ABSD,

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00:21:14,040 –> 00:21:16,680
foreigners pay between 12%, 17%,

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00:21:16,680 –> 00:21:19,040
all the way to currently 30%.

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00:21:19,040 –> 00:21:21,720
It was 25%, increased to 30%.

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00:21:21,720 –> 00:21:24,120
So over the years foreigners have a lot of skin to give.

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Now the mindset of that foreigners and PRs

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00:21:25,920 –> 00:21:27,000
holding onto property in Singapore

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00:21:27,000 –> 00:21:29,240
is that they have a lot more stickiness

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00:21:29,240 –> 00:21:30,320
and they will not sell

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00:21:30,320 –> 00:21:32,120
because if they were to sell and buy back again,

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00:21:32,120 –> 00:21:34,360
they’ll be hit with a fresh round of ABSD

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00:21:34,360 –> 00:21:35,720
at the latest highest realm.

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00:21:35,720 –> 00:21:37,360
So technically speaking,

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00:21:37,360 –> 00:21:39,000
if you want to buy a property in Singapore,

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00:21:39,000 –> 00:21:42,840
you have to wait for this pool of current owners

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00:21:42,840 –> 00:21:44,280
to release their units in the market,

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00:21:44,280 –> 00:21:46,640
and this is a dwindling pool

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00:21:46,640 –> 00:21:48,280
because there’s lesser people

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00:21:48,280 –> 00:21:50,280
that are willing to let go of their units

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00:21:50,280 –> 00:21:51,080
that they’re holding.

Melvin Lim
00:21:51,080 –> 00:21:52,960
And of course then you have to depend on new launches,

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00:21:52,960 –> 00:21:55,680
you have to wait for existing Singaporeans

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00:21:55,680 –> 00:21:57,600
that want to upgrade their portfolio or downgrade.

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00:21:57,600 –> 00:21:58,760
And what does this means is that

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00:21:58,760 –> 00:22:02,800
this entire picture then form a new level of stickiness

Melvin Lim
00:22:02,800 –> 00:22:03,960
in the entire market.

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00:22:03,960 –> 00:22:05,360
To sum up this episode,

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part one of our forecasts and predictions for 2023 is that

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2023 is going to be a very interesting year

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00:22:11,160 –> 00:22:12,800
because this is going to be a year

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00:22:12,800 –> 00:22:15,400
that we will see a U-shaped turn

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00:22:15,400 –> 00:22:17,040
and that is what we call a shift.

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00:22:17,040 –> 00:22:18,360
And if you’re not ready for the shift,

Melvin Lim
00:22:18,360 –> 00:22:19,800
you’re trying to time the market

Melvin Lim
00:22:19,800 –> 00:22:20,760
and when the shift comes

Melvin Lim
00:22:20,760 –> 00:22:21,840
and you want to enter the market,

Melvin Lim
00:22:21,840 –> 00:22:24,360
you might be further priced out of the market.

Melvin Lim
00:22:24,360 –> 00:22:27,440
It is better sometimes to enter the market,

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00:22:27,440 –> 00:22:29,560
really deep dive, do your homework,

Melvin Lim
00:22:29,560 –> 00:22:30,480
do your analysis,

Melvin Lim
00:22:30,480 –> 00:22:31,280
really deep dive,

Melvin Lim
00:22:31,280 –> 00:22:32,760
enter the market so that by the time

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00:22:32,760 –> 00:22:34,440
when you flip open the newspaper tomorrow

Melvin Lim
00:22:34,440 –> 00:22:36,360
and when Fed decide to cut their rates,

Melvin Lim
00:22:36,360 –> 00:22:38,160
and everybody wants to increase their price,

Melvin Lim
00:22:38,160 –> 00:22:40,080
you will not be caught by surprise

Melvin Lim
00:22:40,080 –> 00:22:41,520
because you’re already in the market

Melvin Lim
00:22:41,520 –> 00:22:43,160
and that is the time that you can let your property

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00:22:43,160 –> 00:22:45,240
benefit upwards with asset inflation

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00:22:45,240 –> 00:22:47,200
because you are already in the market.

Melvin Lim
00:22:47,200 –> 00:22:48,560
So I want to end this episode,

Melvin Lim
00:22:48,560 –> 00:22:51,640
part one on forecasts and predictions for 2023.

Melvin Lim
00:22:51,640 –> 00:22:53,520
I just want to wish you a wonderful year ahead.

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00:22:53,520 –> 00:22:55,800
Thank you for follow PropertyLimBrothers over the years

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00:22:55,800 –> 00:22:57,320
and we hope that our Nuggets On The Go series

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00:22:57,320 –> 00:22:58,160
has helped you,

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00:22:58,160 –> 00:22:59,040
whether you’re traveling on the road

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00:22:59,040 –> 00:23:00,360
listening to our Spotify,

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00:23:00,360 –> 00:23:02,280
or you are at home watching this on YouTube.

Melvin Lim
00:23:02,280 –> 00:23:03,720
And thank you for staying tuned with us.

Melvin Lim
00:23:03,720 –> 00:23:04,680
My name is Melvin Lim,

Melvin Lim
00:23:04,680 –> 00:23:06,520
CEO and co-founder of PropertyLimBrothers

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00:23:06,520 –> 00:23:08,880
and we’re very happy to have a new season

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00:23:08,880 –> 00:23:10,000
for Nuggets On The Go.

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00:23:10,000 –> 00:23:11,720
So we’ll see you on the next episode.

Melvin Lim
00:23:11,720 –> 00:23:13,080
Stayed tuned, cheers.

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